Harry Fearnley's Main Go (Baduk, WeiQi/Wei-Ch'i, Igo) Page
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Keywords: Go, Igo, WeiQi, Wei-Ch'i, Baduk; TsumeGo, Britain, Computers,
Rulesets, "Bestiary", Books.
Contents
- Introduction
- Lots more Go
links
- Go in
the British Isles
- Go in
the rest of Europe
- Go in
the rest of the world
- Some
personal pages
- Computers
and Go
- Combinatorial
Games Theory/ Maths/ AI, and Go
- Introduction
to the Game; History; General
- Books and
Bibliographies
- Playing
Go on the Internet -- IGS, NNGS, GIGS, LGS, WWGo, the Gaming Zone, iGo
- Play Go by
E-mail
- Newsgroups
: rec.games.go, fj.rec.games.go, and japan.games.go
- Archives of
Go-related information
- FAQs, other
information
- Printing
and Typesetting
- Go products
and Services - Suppliers
- Go
Problems - Tsume Go
- A
"Bestiary"
- Rulesets
- Game
records
- Dictionaries,
Encyclopaedias, Databases
- Teaching
and Studying Go
- Go Variants,
and Go-related Games
- Some Korean
pages - not further classified
- Not Elsewhere
Classified
This page contains material related to the oriental board game Go
(Japanese Igo , Chinese WeiQi [ Wei-Ch'i], Korean
Baduk/Paduk). Please note my use of the word Baduk, and use
the word "Baduk" in a prominent place on your Go pages -- preferably in
the TITLE, and in the META tags within HTML. Doing this will make it much easier
for other people to find your page using simple search tools. Apart from its use
in Korean (meaning this game), the word Baduk seems to exist only in the
Basque language (as a stative verb!). All the other obvious names for Go also
have other meanings in other languages (Go - English verb; WeiQi/Wei-Ch'i -
Chinese name), and/or exist as widely-used abbreviations (Igo -- IGO :
Inter-Governmental Organization; International Golf Organization).
On this page I will specialise in links to British Go activities and people,
as well as matters broadly relating to Computers and Go, and Rulesets
(and problems arising from them, thus giving us "beasts" for a "Bestiary"!)
There will also be a number of links of particular interest to me. However,
where other people are providing well organized indexes, I will often simply
point to them.
Please note that I cannot update this page as frequently as I would like to.
Please check out my Personal
"Bookmarks"/ "Hotlist"/ "Favourites" file, which has lots of Go links. I
find new links almost daily, and I check, and update, the links in my bookmarks
fairly frequently. My bookmarks are likely to contain many things that are not
here.
- The British Go
Association , with a price list for books and equipment (also available to
non-members), club lists, the E-Journal, information about the Journal,
and access to programs in the BGA Computer Library of Shareware software for
the IBM PC, etc.
- UK Go players mailing list : if you have a message that would be of
particular interest to British players, then you can send them all an e-mail
message at ukgolist@dcs.rhbnc.ac.uk.NOSPAM (remove the
".NOSPAM"). There is some further
information about the GoUK mailing list.
- The British Go Association maintains a list of British
Go clubs, as well as a clickable
map. Since I live in Oxford, here is the home page for the Oxford City Go Club
, and also some information (not always up-to-date) about the Oxford University Go Society.
- Private sales/exchanges of any Go-related material via the UK Go Mart and
Exchange. I expect to be adding to this substantially in the year 2000 --
watch this space!
- John Fairbairn researches the history of Go --
he is also the author of the Go-displaying program "Go Maximizer" for which he
has recorded a number of games. T Mark Hall has recorded a large number of
Games in Ishi/Go_Scribe/Many_Faces_of_Go format. Further information about all
of these, and more, can be found on John Fairbairn's Home Page
- There are several other people in Britain who provide Go products or
services. These include:
- Go is one of several major games that was played at the First Annual Mind Sports Olympiad,
which was held at the Royal Festival Hall, London, UK from 18-24 August 1997,
and annually thereafter.
- Jan van der Steen's home page --
many links, especially his "Go Game Database", and his "Interface to the
Internet Go Dictionary" (9 languages).
- Fred
Hansen - Software Engineer and Go Player
- Ken Warkentyne's Go page -- lots of links
- Martin Müller author of the program Explorer, and a PhD
thesis on Computer Go
- John Tromp - interested in
Rulesets
- Go WWW-Pages --
Christoph Birk
- PHOAKS: Resources for
rec.games.go -- seems almost useless with Microsoft Internet Explorer v
4.0, but completely broken with Netscape v 4.05 - downloads a lot - do "View"
/ "Source" - but displays nothing!
- Go (Baduk)
Links -- from ChangSup Ryu
- Benz GO Stuff -- Many useful
links
- SmallBear's
English HomePage -- also has a Japanese page.
- Japanese - many links
- joelr's home page
- Matthew Macfadyen's Go Pages
-- tuition; courses; problems
- Takashi Michikawa's Homepage
- Go player
- Mark Wainwright's home
page
- Ken's Go (Baduk, WeiQi) Page
- Per-Erik Martin's Go
page
- Ari Karppinnen - WWGo
opponent
- Barry Phease - Home
Page
- Go -- Youd's page
- David J. King's Go Links
- Michio's Go
Page
- WeiQi/WeiCh'i, Go,
Igo, Baduk -- Chinese page with links to other Chinese, as well as
Japanese and Korean, pages.
- Check out the "other go pages" section
of Ken's "Web Go (Wei Qi, Baduk) Page Index" which is a bit of a mixed bag
of links.
Combinatorial Games Theory is based on work first published (formally, and in
a book) in On Numbers and Games by John Horton Conway; publ Academic
Press; 1976. These ideas were developed, in a more accessible way, in the
2-volume Winning Ways, for your mathematical plays by Elwyn R Berlekamp,
John H Conway and Richard K Guy; Academic Press; 1982. (If you like these, or
you are simply a fan of Donald Knuth, then check out Surreal Numbers , by
Donald Knuth; Addison-Wesley; 1974. This humorous, though basically,teatment
pre-dates On Numbers and Games by 2 years).
Most of the work being done now in CGT and Go seems to be by people centred
on University of California at Berkeley including Elwyn
Berlekamp , David Wolfe , YongHoan
Kim, Bill Spight, and possibly others. Others who are active in this field
include Howard A Landman, David Moews , Martin
Mueller , and Ralph Gasser.
Available resources include:
- The book Mathematical Go -- Chilling Gets the Last Point by Elwyn R
Berlekamp and David Wolfe; Publ AK Peters Ltd, 289 Linden Street, Wellesley,
MA 02181, USA; 1994.
This was also published in paperback, with (optional) accompanying
software, as Mathematical Go: Nightmares for the Professional Go
Player, by the Ishi Press International, San Jose CA (1994?). I found the
software a useful supplement to the book -- a bit expensive, perhaps.
There is a brief description of Mathematical Go: Chilling
Gets the Last Point
- David Wolfe has written a theory program, for Unix systems, which
implements the mathematical formalism used in that book, and makes some
provision for kos. I have made a version of David
Wolfe's "theory" for the IBM PC -- runs under DOS. You can use it to do
the arithmetic.
- David Eppstein has provided a description of Combinatorial Game Theory ,
together with links to many other CGT resources.
- Some of these ideas -- CGT, Go, and computers -- are brought together by
Tristan Cazenave -
Computers; Combinatorial Game Theory ...
- Following a workshop held in 1994, Mathematical Sciences Research
Institute (MSRI) produced MSRI Publication 29, edited by Richard J Nowakowski,
and published in 1996 by Cambridge University Press (ISBN 0-521-57411-0) with
the title Games of No Chance. It contains 4 articles -- 83 pages --
about CGT and Go. There is an Online
version of "Games of No Chance" -- all 4 Go papers are there.
General introductions to the game include:
Some other articles are:
A good starting point for other introductions is the "general" section of
Ken's "Web Go (Wei Qi, Baduk) Page Index"
Do your own searches on the Web for pages about Go, now:
You can play against opponents ranging in strength from complete beginner to
Professional. You can even play against a very recent version of the program
Many Faces of Go. If you're tired then simply watch others playing and make
comments on their games!
The Internet Go Server (IGS) has been around for several years, and the No
Name Go Server (NNGS) is a more recent creation. There are several "clones" of
the NNGS. These include The Legend Go Server (LGS) in Taiwan which opened in
early 1996(?).
The IGS, and NNGS (and "clones"), all work with various "Internet Go
Clients", which can be obtained from various places, including the IGS itself. The Gaming Zone is different.
Other -- non IGS-compatible
The following do not use the standard IGS/NNGS Go clients:
- World Web Go let you play Go
(for free, if you join their Fellowship service), using a Java-capable browser
-- this requires a bit of work to set up, and it works on Windows 95 0nly (as
of 1998/11/21). They also organize an Internet Go World Ranking Contest
with games played using E-mail (and maybe in "real-time" for the endgame if
you have played very slowly). You play up to 10 games, simultaneously, over a
3-month period from mid-September to mid-December, each year. I have enjoyed
all three that I have played in. You can find out more about WWGo - The Internet Go
World Ranking Contest
- The Internet Gaming Zone --- you will
need a client for a PC or a Mac, which you can get from them.
- "Harmony" - Haplink Go Server -
Chinese - has own client
- Welcome to Yahoo!
Games
- Playing VR
Games:- WeiQi(Go/Baduk),Chess,Mahjong using VRML 2.0 viewer
- AirSource Enterprises -- Go and Chinese
Chess -- using Chinese language
- Handtalk World - Go Server; etc -
has own client
- ClassicGames.com
- Welcome to PlaySite
- Check out the "java" section of Ken's
"Web Go (Wei Qi, Baduk) Page Index" for various Java applets.
- Ergo -- a Java IGS
Client
- Use a Java-capable browser to try iGo
(Internet Go) -- slow?
- The JAVA
IGS Telnet Applet
- JavaGO
Richard's Play-By-E-Mail (PBEM) server makes life easier than having to find
your own opponents, and keeps game records ...
Newsgroups are a kind of electronic notice-board. You can post messages there
for people to read world-wide. there are currently three newsgroups which
specialise ing Go/ Weiqi/ Baduk. You will need access to a news server to read
these directly:
- news:rec.games.go -- The main Igo/ Baduk/
WeiQi / Wei Ch'i newsgroup. Unfortunately it often contains a high percentage
of rubbish -- it is fairly easy to ignore this.
- news:fj.rec.games.go - WARNING -
probably not available everywhere
- news:japan.games.go - WARNING - probably
not available everywhere
If you do not have access to a news-server, or you have difficulty reading
some of these newsgroups, then try:
For everything from game records (professional and amateur) to game-diagram
typesetting and printing tools; from Go-playing programs to tools for converting
game-records; lots of information about/from the IGS, and tools for using it;
etc.
- Private sales of second-hand books and equipment -- there is a UK Go Mart and
Exchange -- a Wanted/For-Sale page for British Residents who want
to buy/sell from/to people anywhere.
- Check out the Suppliers of Go
books and equipment in Britain (and the World) page of the BGA site.
- Check out the "products" section of
Ken's "Web Go (Wei Qi, Baduk) Page Index"
- Samarkand is the company started
by Janice Kim, an American professional Go player. They now stock a wide range
of competitively priced Go equipment, and paraphenalia. They obviously also
stock the books of their sister company Good Move Press, publishers of
Learn To Play Go (they have already -- by 1998/11/11 -- published the
first four in a projected 6-part series of books, which are designed to take
players from complete beginner to strong kyu). I highly recommend this series.
They can be contacted by email at info@samarkand.net, or at
sales@samarkand.net, as appropriate. There is more contact
information (including a US toll-free 'phone number) on their WWW page, as
well as pictures of their products, etc.
- Yutopian's Web page. They supply
most things -- including material in Chinese and Japanese. You can order
online. Email: info@yutopian.com
- Ishi Press :
There are lots of companies containg "Ishi Press"
in their name -- very confusing! As a matter of fact, most books supplied by
Ishi, are now available via Kiseido.
- Ishi (US) seem no longer to have their own WWW page
As from 27th
April 1995, Ishi in the USA seems to have a new address (do they still
reply?):
Ishi Press International, 1702-H Meridian Avenue, #193 San
Jose, CA 95125, USA.
Tel: +1 (408) 271-0415. Fax: +1 (408) 271-0416
US Toll-free order line: 800 859-2086
Email:
ishius@ishius.com
.... However, they seem to have moved to:
1394-A Willow Road, Menlo
Park, CA 94025
Tel: 1-800-859-2086; 1-415-323-6996
Email:
ishius@ishius.com
In late 1999 Herbert M Bryant Jr told me that Ishi Press
International can be reached on the
web, or by email; Tel
+1-800-859-2086 -- I do not know who these are!
...Not to be confused with a company with a similar name (allegedly) run
by Sam Sloan ...
- In the UK, we (used to) have:
Ishi International Ltd, PO Box 3288,
London NW5 1RQ, UK.
Tel: +44 171-284-4898 Fax: +44 171-284-4899
Graeme Bruce of Ishi UK now has/had his own e-mail address:
gb@ishi-uk.demon.co.uk
I have no evidence (1998/11/11) that
they are still trading -- anyone know? If they are trading, it is probably
unlikely that they will have books published since 1996.
- Ibuki Trading Post supply the full range of Go material -- they
have a list of books, videos,
boards, stones, software, etc. You can order online. They can be reached
by email at info@ibuki.com, or, for orders at
orders@ibuki.com
They can be reached by more conventional
means:
Phone: +1 (415)961-4996 [GMT -8], Fax: +1 (415)949-2961.
I can
find no record of a business address to which one can send an ordinary letter!
- Kiseido (USA) supply their own books, "Go World", some Japanese
books, computer software, and a wide range of equipment. Kiseido (Japan)'s catalogues
contain detailed descriptions of their product range. Trading by Kiseido (USA)
is now via Yutopian.
- Schaak en Go winkel Het Paard
are the largest European distributor -- agents for Yutopian and Kiseido, I
believe -- and can be reached by email at paard@xs4all.nl -- as well
as selling direct to the public, they seem to act as wholesalers to other retailers throughout western
Europe
- Fourthline
Press are publishers. Their first publication is Whole Board Thinking
in Joseki - I, which I highly recommend, is sub-titled 3-4 point, low
kakari. The second book in the series - Whole Board Thinking in Joseki
- II (sub-titled 3-4 point, high kakaris, and far kakaris) is
equally well written, illustrated, and organized. I am eagerly awaiting one
which discusses the joseki starting from the 3-3 and 4-4 points -- I think
that I might understand these better!
Their phone number is +1 (508) 368-8458, and their Email is:
FourthLine@aol.com. Their books are easily available from Samarkand,
as well as other suppliers.
- Village Games (of 65 The West Yard, Camden Lock, London NW1 8AF --
proprietor Ray Bathke -- Tel (and Fax) +44 171 485-0653; email
bathke@villagegames.com) do not yet have a Web Page, but here is a
message that I got from them about Books available from
Village Games, Jun 22 1995. They also supply other shops, including "Just
Games", in London.
- The Gameskeeper, 105 Cowley Road, Oxford, OX4 1HU.
Tel: (01865)
721348
Smallish stock of books and equipment, but can get stuff from their
wholesaler, very quickly. Take credit cards.
- Oxford Heritage Limited, 72 High Street, Oxford,Ox1 4BA.
Tel:
(01865) 203244. Fax: (01865) 203250
Email:
qg24@dial.pipex.com
They are 'Purveyors of Traditional games', and
have quite a wide-ranging stock -- mainly games, but also a few books. They
are not specialists in Go equipment, but currently stock a quality medium
scale board. I am expecting them to stock Classic Board Games for
Klutzes which contains a 9x9 Go board and stones -- highly recommended as
a Christmas present for a young relative!
- SpieleKiste have a wide range of go material, including a number of
books in Japanese. The proprietor is Rudige Burow, and they can be reached
at:
SpieleKiste Unna, Burow & Wiesen, Gesellschaftsstr. 15, 4750 Unna,
Germany
Tel: +49 2303 22442 Fax: +49 2303 22967.
- The Ing Chang-Ki Goe Educational Foundation, 4F Kuang Fu Building, No. 35
Kuang Fu South Road, Taipei, Taiwan, ROC. FAX 886-2-768-6940. Tel
886-2-761-4117.
- Various products and services - check out Fred Hansen
- Information about other suppliers:
I have a great interest in Tsume Go problems, and am in the process of
putting the 1,454 problems of the KanZuFu (Chinese "GuanZiPu") into
computer-readable format. If this is a success, I may well do the same for the
other classics:
Here is a table of the better known "Classic" works.
References: (from
Harry Fearnley's post to r.g.g. 17/10/95, substantially amended 19 Feb 1996 and
July 18 1996 (Korean added))
Some Classic TsumeGo problem books
|
Number
| Title (Jap / Chinese / Korean)
| Author
| (dates)
| Publishing date
|
1a
| --- / XuanXuan QiJing / Hyun Hyun Ki Kyung
| Yan TianZhang & Yan DeFu
| 1347(??1349)
|
1b
| Gengen Gokyo / --- / Hyun Hyun Ki Kyung
| Ed. Honinbo Sansa
| 1630
|
1c
| Gengen Gokyo / --- / Hyun Hyun Ki Kyung
| 20 editions
| Edo & Meiji
|
"Mysterious ..."/ "The Gateway to All
Marvels" # Problems = 290/349?
|
2
| Kanzufu / Guan Zi Pu / Gwan Ja Bo
| Meijin Guo BuiLing (Ed. Tao ShiYu et al)
| 1689
|
"Manual of Endgame Positions" # Problems =
1,454
|
3a
| Igo Hatsuyoron(a.k.a. Fudanzakura) / FaYangLun / Bal
Yang Non . Hyun Gam
| Inoue Inseki
| (1673-1692)
| 1713
|
3b
| Igo Hatsuyoron
| Ed. Honinbo Shusai
| 1914
|
"On the production of Yang in Go" # Problems
= 183/201?
|
4
| Gokyo Shumyo/ QiJingZhongMiao / Ki Kyung Joong Myo
| Hayashi Genbi
| (1778-1861)
| 1811
|
"Brilliancies from Go Classics" # Problems =
505/515?
|
5
| Shikatsu Myoki / --- / Sa Hwal Myo Ki
| Honinbo Shusai
| (1874-1940)
| 1910
|
"Life and Death Brilliant Stratagems" #
Problems = 168
|
6a
| Kifu Genran / ? XuanLan / ---
| Akaboshi Intetsu
| ?
| 1833
|
"Go Diagrams: Mysterious Vision" # Problems
= 15-20?
|
6b
| Genran / XuanLan / ---
| ed. Inoue Shuntetsu
| ?
| 1846
|
"Mysterious Vision" # Problems = 69
|
|
I am very grateful to John Fairbairn in helping me compile the above table --
all errors are mine!
You can also get Two new problems (and
solutions) every day from Thomas Wolf's Go Tools collection.
Here are various problem pages:
Check out the Go
Problems page of the BGA site, for links to several more pages.
- What is the maximum number of live groups that can exist on a Go board?
- What is the largest number of stones that can be captured, and still not
give two eyes?
- When could suicide be a good move?
- In which positions will the Japanese/ Chinese/ Ing/ New Zealand/ AGA/ etc
rules give different results?
- What are all the different types of "cycles" (e.g. Ko, Chosei, Jun Kan Ko)
that are possible? What is the longest cycle possible without a repetition of
a previous board position? ... or such that the last "n" moves are not a
repeat of the immediately previous "n" moves?
The above are just some examples of many similar questions which one can
think of and which give rise to strange or weird positions.
I am starting a collection of these "beasts" (hence the name "Bestiary"), and
would be grateful for any information. If you have an interesting position,
please send it to me by e-mail, and I will make a WWW page here -- you will get
the full credit. I will place links to any relevant existing pages here.
My interest in such positions is partly an abstract interest in rulesets, and
partly because I want to have a collection of positions which I can use to check
whether computer algorithms work as they should -- for such tests, it is often
helpful to have very bizarre positions -- the more bizarre the better.
I already know of John Tilley's "International Go Handbook and Dictionary",
as well as the invaluable "Go Player's Almanac", by Richard Bozulich. I also
have a Japanese "Go Encyclopaedia" published some years ago by Nihon Kiin.
- There is now a WWW version of Ikeda Toshio's
classic book "On The Rules of Go" -- many thanks to James Davies for his
work on this, and to Fujitsu for sponsoring both the book, and its presence on
the Web.
- I have written a lengthy, if somewhat sketchy, paper called Multistage Kos
: Zippers, Wheels, Loops, etc , in which I discuss some discoveries
relating to very artificial situations.
- A
collection of "beasts" which challenge various rulesets, including classic
material from Ikeda and Shimada.
- Here is a further
collection of ruleset-challenging beasts from Matthew Macfadyen, Martin
Mueller, and Nick Wedd.
- Matti Siivola's Go
page contains references to several such positions -- now includes the
fill-your-own-eye "tesuji". In Nov 1998, I made my own,
local, copy of that part of his page.
- A
collection of other "beasts" -- do not challenge Rulesets -- mainly Ger
Hungerink's articles.
- Check out the Comparison of some Go
rules page of the BGA site -- a good, practical, overview.
- Fred Hansen's Compendium of
Rules for WeiQi(Go, Baduk) provides links to various pages, including the Kim, Simon, and Straus
commentary on the Ing rules, as well as Ing's 1991 rules, The latest
Japanese Rules, etc.
- Fred Hansen's
precise, and nearly complete, SST Ko rules
- Robert Jasiek's original
work on Ing Ko Rules, and much more
- John Tromp's Go page - with
his "Logical Rules", and links to other "Rulesets" pages.
- Check out the "rules" section of Ken's
"Web Go (Wei Qi, Baduk) Page Index" -- mainly for beginners.
- Korean Rules --
from Barry Phease.
- There is a mailing list devoted to the discussion of rulesets. frequent
contributors include Robert Jasiek, Barry Phease, John Tromp, and James
Davies. Robert Jasiek provides details of how to subscribe,
etc
- Jan van der Steen's GoBase -- A Go
Game Database
- The WWW Joseki
Dictionary
- The Internet Go
Dictionary -- 9 languages (English, Japanese, Chinese, Korean, French,
German, Dutch, Swedish, Italian, and Esperanto!) -- extensive dictionary.
- Go Data Base
- GLOSSARY OF JAPANESE
GO TERMS
- Go Terms -
Japanese Pronunciations
- GO-termer. Japanska
gotermer "versatta och f"rklarade.
- Check out the "definitions &
proverbs" section of Ken's "Web Go (Wei Qi, Baduk) Page Index"
I am interested in collecting information, about Go-variants (games which
broadly similar rules -- perhaps on different shaped boards), and also about
other games which can be played with the same equipment. I am hopeful that one
day enough of these can be brought together into a compendium of games so that
Go equipment will get in into a shop in every main shopping centre!
If you can provide more sensible descriptions, for these please tell me.
Check out my home page , where
there is some contact information, and a link to my "Bookmarks"/ "Hotlist"/
"Favourites" file, which contain many Go-related pages not listed here,
especially the newer ones.
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